Re: 93 Grand Cherokee - Weird surge problem

On Apr 14, 12:13=A0pm, "Mike" <m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >I have a 93 grand cherokee with 200Kmiles. It idles smoothly and runs
> > ok but I cannot hold a steady rpm over 1000 RPM.It surges slightly
> > over a 300 RPM range. I've replaced cap, rotor, wires, coil, and
> > plugs. I've checked all the vac*** hoses for leaks. I even went as far
> > as to plug all the vacuun ****ts in the manifold and throttle body. It
> > still surged slightly.
> > I removed the throttle body and cleaned it thoroughly, replaced the
> > TBI gasket. I've used seafoam in the gas tank (it ran really crappy
> > until I filled up again). Cylinder compression is good considering
> > it's age (around 150psi max, 130 min).
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> > Fuel economy is less then I expect. In a relatively hilly area I get
> > around 11MPG in mixed (mostly city) driving. Overall drievability is
> > pretty good and power is good all the way to redline. This leads me to
> > believe I have enough fuel pressure.
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> > Any ideas?
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> > Thanks in advance!
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> > sls
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> =A0 Surging is usually a sign of running lean. I would check the
operation=
 of
> the O2 sensor(s) with a scan tool to make sure they are working
properly. =
To
> do so you would need a scan tool that is capble of reading sensor
values. =
=A0You
> can also check O2 performance with a multimeter. It may be cheaper just
to=

> replace the O2 sensors from the start due to the high mileage on the
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le.
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> =A0 =A0I would check the fuel pressure as well just to rule that out as
a
> possibility. The fuel pressure regulator increases fuel pressure under
pow=
er
> conditions so it could still be low at cruise.
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> =A0 What engine do you have ? =A0If you have a V8 they have a pan on the
b=
ottom of
> the intake that is prone to leaking, the only way to check it is to
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 the
> intake.
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> =A0 Also check your EGR valve for proper operation. =A0If it opens too
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 or at
> the wrong time that may cause a surge also.- Hide quoted text -
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Thanks for the suggestions. Is it possible the O2 sensor or EGR could
be bad and not throw a code? So far I don't have any codes from the
ECU.

It is a V8. I'll save pulling the intake as a last resort. Is there a
method for a shadetree mechanic like me to test fuel injectors?

Thanks again!

sls