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>>> I have a 93 grand cherokee with 200Kmiles. It idles smoothly and runs
>>> ok but I cannot hold a steady rpm over 1000 RPM.It surges slightly
>>> over a 300 RPM range. I've replaced cap, rotor, wires, coil, and
>>> plugs. I've checked all the vac*** hoses for leaks. I even went as far
>>> as to plug all the vacuun ****ts in the manifold and throttle body. It
>>> still surged slightly.
>>> I removed the throttle body and cleaned it thoroughly, replaced the
>>> TBI gasket. I've used seafoam in the gas tank (it ran really crappy
>>> until I filled up again). Cylinder compression is good considering
>>> it's age (around 150psi max, 130 min).
>>> Fuel economy is less then I expect. In a relatively hilly area I get
>>> around 11MPG in mixed (mostly city) driving. Overall drievability is
>>> pretty good and power is good all the way to redline. This leads me to
>>> believe I have enough fuel pressure.
>>> Any ideas?
>>> Thanks in advance!
>>> sls
>> Surging is usually a sign of running lean. I would check the
operation of
>> the O2 sensor(s) with a scan tool to make sure they are working
properly. To
>> do so you would need a scan tool that is capble of reading sensor
values. You
>> can also check O2 performance with a multimeter. It may be cheaper just
to
>> replace the O2 sensors from the start due to the high mileage on the
vehicle.
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>> I would check the fuel pressure as well just to rule that out as a
>> possibility. The fuel pressure regulator increases fuel pressure under
power
>> conditions so it could still be low at cruise.
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>> What engine do you have ? If you have a V8 they have a pan on the
bottom of
>> the intake that is prone to leaking, the only way to check it is to
remove the
>> intake.
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>> Also check your EGR valve for proper operation. If it opens too far
or at
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> One more thing i didn't make clear in my original post. It's a cycling
> surge. If I hold the throttle steady as if I was trying to hit
> 1500rpm, the engine will cycle from 1300 to 1600 RPM. Each cycle (up-
> down-up) is about a second long. It does NOT do this at idle. RPM is a
> steady 700 or so. Pretty much anythin above 1000 RPM will do the 300
> rpm cycle.
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> Interestingly enough, I replaced the throttle position sensor a few
> months ago. When I first started the vehicle, it idled at 1500 RPM. It
> did the same 300RPM cycle even though the throttle was closed. Of
> course after the computer "got used to" the new TPS it idled normally.
> It definitely appears to be RPM dependent.
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> Thanks!
> sls
Usually the problem with the TPS is a bad connection, not a bad TPS.
You only fixed half the problem with the new TPS. I would get some
electronic spray contact cleaner and do out the plug and socket for the
TPS first. The told us our TPS was dead in 1999, it was
The other sensor's connections can also benefit from this clean. I use
dielectric grease on the plug's sealing skirt to help keep them clean.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
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