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Re: Crazy beemers

by billg999@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Gunshannon) Feb 25, 2008 at 08:40 PM

In article <47c31b95$0$4938$4c368faf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
	pws <pwshelton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
> XS11E wrote:
> 
>> A convertable car!  That PROVES their all dangerous!
>> 
>> I'm really surprised and a bit disappointed in Pat for posting that bit

>> of FUD. :-(
> 
> Almost any disappointment from you is a positive thing from my point of 
> view, seriously.
> 
> There is no fear, because I stay off of the things.
> There is no uncertainty, the facts are there to be seen, and no doubt 
> either, as I have never seen a collision between a motorcycle and a car 
> where the 2-wheeler did not get the worst of it by far.
> 
> If the motorcycle does significant damage to the car or occupants, it is

> a safe bet that the motorcycle rider is dead.

Taking a step up, you have cars and trucks and the exact same can be said.
And based on the number of car/truck accidents around here almost none
resulting in injury to the truckdriver while the car drivers are either
killed or at the least seriously injured maybe we need to consider not
driving cars anymore either.

> 
>> You can get killed on a motorcycle, in a car, walking and on February 
>> 18th I got run over by a right turning Chevrolet Suburban while in a 
>> cross walk WITH a walk sign while on a mobility scooter (walking is one

>> of the things I don't do anymore.)  I wasn't hurt but the Pride Cyclone

>> was totalled.
>> 
>>
http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/yhst-92821211804676_1989_4590478
> 
> Your chances of serious injury or death are far higher on a motorcycle 
> than in an automobile or while walking, unless you are walking on the 
> highway or in the ghetto.
> 
> That is not my opinion. If you disagree with that, then you are either 
> going senile or you have not been paying attention.

Which fails to take int o account the notion that I have a better chance
of avoiding the accident at the very last minute with my bike which I
don't have in a car, even my Miata.

> 
>> The estimate is over $1,800 and, since it's a discontinued model, the 
>> parts are unavailable so I'm just SOL....
>> 
>> Living is dangerous, being born inevitably leads to death.
> 
> Yes, but we also have things like seat belts, reserve parachutes, 
> condoms, kevlar vests, helmets, smoke detectors, etc.
> If none of it matters and we are just going to die anyway, why bother 
> with all of that?


One takes reasonable and prudent actions.  That does not necessarily mean
giving up our life so someone else can enjoy theirs more.

> 
> Most people wear seat belts in their cars because it increases their 
> chances of living in a bad wreck. Not exactly an option on a motorcycle.

More hype than reality.  Standard seatbelts are seldom 100% effective
and the kind that would be (6 point racing harness) are illegal in 
street cars almost everywhere at this poiknt and in some locales can
be used as prima facie evidence of street racing.  And I believe that
Ontario Province has even gone so far as to ban Roll Bars in the last
year or so!! 

> 
> I am not suggesting that we huddle around in fear and never take any 
> chances, but if someone chooses to ride a motorcycle on the same roads 
> that thousands of large vehicles with very bad drivers share, I don't 
> have a lot of sympathy when they get flattened.

Funny, that's what the truck drivers in PA say about car drivers.

bill

-- 
Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolves
billg999@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
University of Scranton   |
Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>




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Crazy beemers
"miker" <mik  2008-02-22 13:25:18 
Re: Crazy beemers
"miker" <mik  2008-02-22 13:27:35 
Re: Crazy beemers
XS11E <xs11e@[EMAIL PR  2008-02-22 13:57:32 
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"miker" <mik  2008-02-22 16:03:01 
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XS11E <xs11e@[EMAIL PR  2008-02-22 16:21:36 
Re: Crazy beemers
Robert Boswell <R.BOSW  2008-02-23 05:40:42 
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"miker" <mik  2008-02-23 07:20:17 
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Lanny Chambers <lanny@  2008-02-23 09:16:54 
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"johnny p." <  2008-02-23 19:07:51 
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XS11E <xs11e@[EMAIL PR  2008-02-23 08:50:59 
Re: Crazy beemers
pws <pwshelton@[EMAIL   2008-02-23 13:22:34 
Re: Crazy beemers
"miker" <mik  2008-02-25 10:00:17 
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XS11E <xs11e@[EMAIL PR  2008-02-25 11:35:27 
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pws <pwshelton@[EMAIL   2008-02-25 13:50:40 
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"miker" <mik  2008-02-25 14:46:14 
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pws <pwshelton@[EMAIL   2008-02-25 18:11:42 
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pltrgyst <pltrgyst@[EM  2008-02-23 11:52:29 
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robraitxxxxx@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-02-23 23:31:46 
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"Eric Baber" &l  2008-02-25 13:52:09 
Re: Crazy beemers
Lanny Chambers <lanny@  2008-02-22 13:30:31 
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"miker" <mik  2008-02-22 13:43:11 
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"Chris D'Agnolo"  2008-02-24 21:17:56 
Re: Crazy beemers
Rui Pedro Mendes Salgueir  2008-02-25 18:29:24 
Re: Crazy beemers
Lanny Chambers <lanny@  2008-02-25 14:08:20 
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billg999@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-25 20:40:55 
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pws <pwshelton@[EMAIL   2008-02-25 17:59:58 
Re: Crazy beemers
Lanny Chambers <lanny@  2008-02-25 22:29:40 
Re: Crazy beemers
"miker" <mik  2008-02-26 07:07:12 
Re: Crazy beemers
billg999@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-26 14:37:51 
Re: Crazy beemers
pws <pwshelton@[EMAIL   2008-02-26 12:27:49 
Re: Crazy beemers
XS11E <xs11e@[EMAIL PR  2008-02-26 12:22:31 
Re: Crazy beemers
pws <pwshelton@[EMAIL   2008-02-26 14:23:14 
Re: Crazy beemers
XS11E <xs11e@[EMAIL PR  2008-02-26 14:18:49 
Re: Crazy beemers
pws <pwshelton@[EMAIL   2008-02-26 21:50:14 
Re: Crazy beemers
pltrgyst <pltrgyst@[EM  2008-02-26 14:55:54 
Re: Crazy beemers
pws <pwshelton@[EMAIL   2008-02-26 14:22:24 
Re: Crazy beemers
"miker" <mik  2008-02-26 15:08:02 
Re: Crazy beemers
pltrgyst <pltrgyst@[EM  2008-02-26 21:12:16 
Re: Crazy beemers
"miker" <mik  2008-02-27 08:22:13 
Re: Crazy beemers
pltrgyst <pltrgyst@[EM  2008-02-27 10:43:06 
Re: Crazy beemers
pltrgyst <pltrgyst@[EM  2008-02-26 14:53:22 
Re: Crazy beemers
"Iva" <ivaf@  2008-02-27 12:21:26 
Re: Crazy beemers
pws <pwshelton@[EMAIL   2008-02-27 12:04:49 
Re: Crazy beemers
"Iva" <ivaf@  2008-02-28 11:55:15 
Re: Crazy beemers
pws <pwshelton@[EMAIL   2008-02-28 11:41:02 
Re: Crazy beemers
billg999@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-26 14:55:01 
Re: Crazy beemers
Carbon <nobrac@[EMAIL   2008-03-01 23:55:37 
Re: Crazy beemers
"miker" <mik  2008-03-02 19:50:00 
Re: Crazy beemers
CR <var@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-03-03 12:17:31 
Re: Crazy beemers
Carbon <nobrac@[EMAIL   2008-03-04 02:54:13 

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