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Re: Picking out a few tools. Your input welcome

by pws <pwshelton@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 5, 2008 at 10:24 AM

earache@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> As ski season winds down and autocross season starts up, I've been
> thinking about learning how to rotate (swap) tires myself.  Since
> Sears is having a sale this week, and I don't have any of the
> appropriate tools, I put 2+2 together and have started picking some
> stuff out.  If any of you all have a minute, you're welcome to chime
> in on my selections or what I should get, since my experience in this
> area is pretty limited.
> 
> Craftsman 2-1/4 ton floor jack, 29.99
> http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00950524000P?keyword=floor+jack
> I was actually looking at some of their more expensive jacks, but they
> seem to get pretty mixed reviews until you step up to the $300 (279.99
> on sale) Craftsman Professional aluminum model.  That thing looks
> sweet, but someone said this one works well enough so I figure I'll
> buy in for $30 and see how I like working on the wheels.

I have used a similar one. Lots of pumping the handle for the height 
that it is being raised, and much more effort than a larger model, but 
they do work.
I think that the professional model takes 3 pumps, maybe two, to get the 
Miata raised. That is on my want/must-have list.

> Central Machinery 3 ton jack stands with rubber pads
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=38846
> These seem good because they have a groove that might fit well over
> the lip on the underside of the car, which I understand is a good
> place to prop it up?

When I jack the car up for wheel swaps, I put a piece of wood underneath 
at the mirror point to distribute the load, then raise the whole side of 
the car up.
I stick one jack stand underneath the piece of wood to save the car in 
case the jack fails, then just swap them out.

I lower the car onto stands anytime I am underneath it, but this works 
fine since I am never in danger of it falling on me during tire swap.
Since the tires I have are always directional, I can only go front to 
rear and vice-versa anyway.

> Will I need more than just one pair?  I'm thinking two stands is
> enough to prop up the left side, swap front & rear, then repeat with
> the right side.

I have four stands, but have never used more than two on a Miata unless 
I was parting it out.

> Craftsman Torque Wrench, 1/2 in. drive, 69.99
>
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00944595000P?keyword=torque+wrench
> First of all, I want 1/2 in drive, right?  The mixed reviews on
> several of their affordable torque wrenches sort of concerns me.
> Craftsman also makes a dedicated "Tire Torque Wrench" that gets better
> reviews, but it's $140.  Sorta hoping this one would be good enough
> for tightening lug nuts.

That will work, the 1/2 inch will go over the 80 foot pounds that you
need.
As far as quality, I have had a Craftsman torque wrench fall apart, but 
that was after many years of use and it remained accurate every time I 
tested it against a friend's wrench. Or at least, they were equally 
inaccurate. ;-)

I have heard that you should only use a torque wrench to tighten, not to 
loosen. Not sure how true this is but I have always followed it since 
torque wrenches are kind of pricey and I have the tools I need to remove 
the lugs.

> Lug nut socket?  Where should I get one, is it just a generic socket?
> I have the OEM 16" wheels on a 2003 Shinsen edition.

There can be different sized lugs depending on the wheels that were 
used, but it should be a common size and any 1/2" socket that fits and 
is deep enough should work.
I would mention to be sure to get a quality socket, but you are already 
looking at Craftsman products.

> I'm thinking I might also want a helper wrench or two, curious as to
> what people like.
> 
> Gracias & ZZ
> Eric

You won't need a helper wrench to torque them, plenty of leverage to hit 
80 foot pounds from the long handle on the torque wrench.

A long-handled 1/2" socket driver is a wonderful thing when removing 
stubborn bolts, but your's are probably not too bad at 5 years old 
unless a gorilla mechanic has over-torqued them somewhere. :-)

Pat




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Picking out a few tools. Your input welcome
earache@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-05 07:26:56 
Re: Picking out a few tools. Your input welcome
pws <pwshelton@[EMAIL   2008-03-05 10:24:10 
Re: Picking out a few tools. Your input welcome
Lanny Chambers <lanny@  2008-03-05 16:41:10 

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