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Re: CW values for the NC

by "Chris D'Agnolo" <cdagnolo@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 4, 2008 at 04:09 PM

Why doesn't someone do that? Drive an F1 car upside down! That could get a 
crowd excited!

Chris
99BBB

"pws" <pwshelton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:481dde2b$0$20164$4c368faf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Chris D'Agnolo wrote:
>
>> Biggest surprise was the F1 car. That just does not jive with common 
>> sense and logic. Seems to me that they have horribly tiny frontal areas

>> and there's no flat / blunt surfaces. Maybe I just figured it out; the 
>> ground effects intentionally abut a whole bunch of air, with the 
>> resulting force of that air pushing the car downward in order to keep
the 
>> car on the ground. Hmmmmmmm, I could be right!?! In effect these cars 
>> need the huge HP to utilize the air to keep them stuck down! Can you 
>> imagine how fast these buggers would be with aero aids that allow them
to 
>> slice thru the wind?
>>
>> Chris
>> 99BBB
>
> The aerodynamics on the F1 cars produce so much down force that the Indy

> cars can theoretically be driven upside-down as long as you keep the
speed 
> above 81 mph, since roughly 81 mph is when the down force equals the 
> weight of the car.
> They produce roughly 2 times their weight in down force once they hit
118 
> mph.
>
> From Wikipedia:
>
> The cars' aerodynamics are designed to provide maximum downforce with a 
> minimum of drag; every part of the bodywork is designed with this aim in

> mind. Like most open wheeler cars they feature large front and rear 
> aerofoils, but they are far more developed than American open wheel 
> racers, which depend more on suspension tuning; for instance, the nose
is 
> raised above the centre of the front aerofoil, allowing its entire width

> to provide downforce. The front and rear wings are highly sculpted and 
> extremely fine 'tuned', along with the rest of the body such as the 
> turning vanes beneath the nose, bargeboards, sidepods, underbody, and
the 
> rear diffuser. They also feature aerodynamic appendages that direct the 
> airflow. Such an extreme level of aerodynamic development means that an
F1 
> car produces much more downforce than any other open-wheel formula; for 
> example the Indycars produce downforce equal to their weight at 190 km/h

> (118 mph), while an F1 car achieves the same downforce:weight ratio of
1:1 
> at 125 km/h (78 mph) to 130 km/h (81 mph), and at 190 km/h (118 mph) the

> ratio is roughly 2:1. Therefore, theoretically, F1 cars can drive upside

> down from 130 km/h (81 mph).
>
>
> Keeping it on topic, can you imagine how the Miata would drive with that

> kind of down force?
> You would obviously need a lot more power to drive your car that starts
to 
> "weigh" well over 4000 pounds at highway speed.
> Cornering would be even more fun than ever! :-)
>
> Pat
>




 18 Posts in Topic:
CW values for the NC
Bruno <dont.use@[EMAIL  2008-05-01 19:28:30 
Re: CW values for the NC
"Chris D'Agnolo"  2008-05-03 21:53:19 
Re: CW values for the NC
pws <pwshelton@[EMAIL   2008-05-04 11:02:55 
Re: CW values for the NC
"Chris D'Agnolo"  2008-05-04 16:09:08 
Re: CW values for the NC
pws <pwshelton@[EMAIL   2008-05-05 09:09:03 
Re: CW values for the NC
"miker" <mik  2008-05-05 10:17:54 
Re: CW values for the NC
pws <pwshelton@[EMAIL   2008-05-05 12:04:12 
Re: CW values for the NC
Grant Edwards <grante@  2008-05-05 14:41:11 
Re: CW values for the NC
Invisible Man <Invisib  2008-05-05 20:57:30 
Re: CW values for the NC
Grant Edwards <grante@  2008-05-05 15:23:45 
Re: CW values for the NC
pws <pwshelton@[EMAIL   2008-05-07 00:51:50 
Re: CW values for the NC
Jim Hayter <see.reply.  2008-05-07 12:02:06 
Re: CW values for the NC
Lanny Chambers <lanny@  2008-05-07 11:36:55 
Re: CW values for the NC
XS11E <xs11e@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-07 10:36:40 
Re: CW values for the NC
Lanny Chambers <lanny@  2008-05-07 17:55:26 
Re: CW values for the NC
"Ken Lyons" <  2008-05-08 00:59:56 
Re: CW values for the NC
Lanny Chambers <lanny@  2008-05-07 23:22:22 
Re: CW values for the NC
Grant Edwards <grante@  2008-05-07 11:18:56 

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