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> Ray O wrote:
>> "mack" <mackerel@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>> There seem to be two camps. I've seen those that advocate stomping
on
>>>>> the engine to high revs and backing off in the initial break-in
>>>>> because of some alleged benefit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then there's a more traditional school of thought, such as this
post:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos.toyota/msg/fbdecfe9b55b6830?dmode=source
>>>>>
>>>>> Both claim scientific reasons for their method. It seems the "flog
>>>>> the engine" guys say to change the oil soon after an initial run
>>>>> period of say 20 miles to get rid of initial metal particles, the
>>>>> above quoted appears to say those metal particles are beneficial.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any thoughts? Real world tests of engines broken in one way vs
>>>>> another?
>>>> Automakers generally know a lot more about their engines and how they
>>>> are manufactured than the people who work in repair shops or write
>>>> magazine articles and blogs, so IMO, the safest thing to do is to
>>>> follow the automaker's break-in recommendations. I'm not sure about
>>>> other automakers, Toyota runs new engines to redline for a while
after
>>>> they are assembled, and then again on a chassis dyno as the cars are
>>>> coming off of the assembly line.
>>>>
>>>> I don't necessarily follow what I preach, and when got in the 200 ~
300
>>>> new cars I've driven, I just drove them the way I expected to use
that
>>>> particular car, and experienced no engine problems.
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>>>>
>>>> Ray O
>>>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>>> One poster said he would accelerate the engine to the redline. I'm
>>> clearly no expert, but I've never had the engine in either of my
Toyotas
>>> within 1500 rpms of the redline, and in fact tend to back off on the
>>> accelerator to get the trans to ****ft into a higher gear as soon as
>>> warranted. I've got 140K on the older engine and 55K on the newer
one
>>> with no problems and they perform perfectly. So I'll leave the
>>> redlining to somebody else.
>> The good thing about modern electronically fuel injected engines is
that
>> they have an engine RPM limiter to prevent damage from over-revving.
An
>> occasional trip to redline won't hurt the engine, although a steady
diet
>> will tend to wear stuff a little more quickly.
> That's a good idiot proof measure to keep most of them from over rev
> damage Ray, but for the few folks that prefer to run the engine to red
> line and then down ****ft, they mechanically take the engine way over red
> line and usually incur engine and at times drive train damage as well
> using that method. It's only money.
>
IMO, anyone who takes their engine to redline and is stupid enough to
down****ft gets what they deserve ;-)
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Ray O
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