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> "6andretti" <dequardo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 09:42:12 -0000, "Mike P" <privacy@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> wrote:
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>> >"Von Fourche" <kho****ong@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> The first time in my adult life I did something special today. I
> did
>> >> it on
>> >> my own too (well, I had the missionaries sitting with me and the
> Heavenly
>> >> Father and Jesus was leading me) - I went to Church! You don't know
>> >> how hard it was for me to do this. I did it tho. I had faith, put
my
>> >> trust
>> >> in the Heavenly Father and Jesus, and showed up this morning for
>> >> services.
>> >
>> >Why?
>> >
>> >"The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins is a very interesting read..
>>
>> So is the Bible. Try it sometime.
>>
>> Prof. Dawkins should have a chat with Stephen Hawking.
>
>
> I'm somehow not at all surprised that Mr. Know-
> Nothing responds and regales us with yet another
> canard and pathetically feeble attempt at misdirection.
> Will he N E V E R either stop or become contrite?!
>
> The most perfidious way of harming a cause consists
> of defending it deliberately with faulty arguments.
> - Friedrich Nietzsche
>
> Faith, noun. Belief without evidence in what is told by one
> who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel
> - Ambrose Bierce
>
> Faith may be defined briefly as an illogical belief in the
> occurrence of the improbable. - H. L. Mencken
>
> Faith: not *wanting* to know what is true.
> - Friedrich Nietzsche
>
> Faith, as well intentioned as it may be, must be built on
> facts, not fiction--faith in fiction is a damnable false hope.
> - Thomas A. Edison
>
> Faith must have adequate evidence, else it is mere
> superstition. - Alexander Hodge
>
> Question with boldness even the existence of God; because,
> if there is one, he must more approve of the homage of
> reason than that of blindfolded faith. - Thomas Jefferson
>
> A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith
> does not prove anything. - Friedrich Nietzsche
>
> Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning
> faith, I consider a capacity for it terrifying and absolutely
> vile! - Kurt Vonnegut
>
> In the affairs of the world men are saved, not by faith, but
> by the want of it. - Benjamin Franklin
>
> I slept with faith and found a corpse in my arms on awakening;
> I drank and danced all night with doubt and found her a virgin
> in the morning. - Aleister Crowley
>
> The smallest of minds are the easiest to fill with faith.
> - Pope Alexander VI
>
> Once there was a time when all people believed in God
> and the church ruled. This time is called the Dark Ages.
> - Richard Lederer
>
> When the churches literally ruled society, the human
> drama encompassed: (a) slavery; (b) the cruel subjection
> of women; (c) the most savage forms of legal punishment;
> (d) the absurd belief that kings ruled by divine right; (e)
> the daily imposition of physical abuse; (f) cold heartlessness
> for the sufferings of the poor; as well as (g) assorted
> pogroms ("ethnic cleansing" wars) between rival religions,
> capital punishment for literally hundreds of offenses, and
> countless other daily imposed moral outrages.... It was the
> free-thinking, challenging work by people of conscience,
> who almost invariably had to defy the religious and
> political status quo of their times, that brought us out of
> such darkness. - Steve Allen
>
> There was a time when I believed in the story and the
> scheme of salvation, so far as I could understand it,
> just as I believed there was a Devil.... Suddenly the
> light broke through to me and I knew this God was a
> lie.... For indeed it is a silly story, and each generation
> nowadays swallows it with greater difficulty.... Why
> do people go on pretending about this Christianity?
> - H.G. Wells
>
> We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity
> has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further.
> - Richard Dawkins
>
> Religion is the brainchild of fear, and fear is the parent
> of cruelty. The greatest evils inflicted on humankind are
> perpetrated not by pleasure-seekers, self-seeking
> op****tunists, or those who are merely amoral, but by
> fervent devotees of religion. - Emmanuel Kofi Mensah
>
> The man who is always worrying about whether or not
> his soul would be damned generally has a soul that isn't
> worth a damn. - Oliver Wendell Holmes Sr.
>
> Men become civilized, not in pro****tion to their willingness
> to believe, but in pro****tion to their readiness to doubt.
> - H. L. Mencken
>
> I have always felt that doubt was the beginning of wisdom,
> and the fear of God was the end of wisdom.
> - Clarence Darrow
>
> One seldom discovers a true believer that is worth knowing.
> - H. L. Mencken
>
> If a man really believes that God once upheld slavery; that he
> commanded soldiers to kill women and babes; that he believed
> in polygamy; that he persecuted for opinion's sake; that he will
> punish forever, and that he hates an unbeliever, the effect in my
> judgment will be bad. It always has been bad. This belief built
> the dungeons of the Inquisition. This belief made the Puritan
> murder the Quaker. ~ Robert Ingersoll
>
> There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the
> former begets knowledge, the latter ignorance.
> - Hippocrates
>
> Turn over the pages of history and read the damning record
> of the church's opposition to every advance in every field of
> science. - Upton Sinclair
>
> Acceptance without proof is the fundamental characteristic
> of Western religion, rejection without proof is the fundamental
> characteristic of Western science. - Gary Zukav
>
> The essence of science is that it is always willing to abandon
> a given idea for a better one; the essence of theology is that it
> holds its truths to be eternal and immutable. - H. L. Mencken
>
> Just to the extent that the Bible was appealed to in matters
> of science, science was retarded; and just to the extent that
> science has been appealed to in matters of religion, religion
> has advanced - so that now the object of intelligent religionists
> is to adopt a creed that will bear the test and criticism of
> science. - Robert Ingersoll
>
> Science is facts; just as houses are made of stones, so is
> science made of facts; but a pile of stones is not a house
> and a collection of facts is not necessarily science.
> - Henri Poincare
>
> Science has proof without any certainty. Creationists
> have certainty without any proof. - Ashley Montague
>
> The im****tant thing in science is not so much to obtain
> new facts as to discover new ways of thinking about
> them. - Sir William Bragg
>
> Science is nothing but developed perception, interpreted
> intent, common sense rounded out and minutely articulated.
> - George Santayana
>
> In science it often happens that scientists say, 'You know
> that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and
> then they would actually change their minds and you never
> hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It
> doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are
> human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens
> every day. I cannot recall the last time someting like that
> happened in politics or religion. - Carl Sagan
>
> What can be asserted without evidence can also be
> dismissed without evidence. - Christopher Hitchens
>
> My atheism, like that of Spinoza, is true piety towards
> the Universe and denies only gods fa****oned by men
> in their own image to be servants of their human interests.
> - George Santayana
>
> It was the experience of mystery, even if mixed with fear,
> that engendered religion. - Albert Einstein
>
> "The most im****tant thing is not to stop questioning."
> - Albert Einstein
Well **** me, I agree with the "." on something ;-)
MP
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