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> > "6andretti" <dequardo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 09:42:12 -0000, "Mike P" <privacy@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> >
> >> >"Von Fourche" <kho****ong@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> >>
> >> >> The first time in my adult life I did something special today.
I
> > did
> >> >> it on
> >> >> my own too (well, I had the missionaries sitting with me and the
> > Heavenly
> >> >> Father and Jesus was leading me) - I went to Church! You don't
know
> >> >> how hard it was for me to do this. I did it tho. I had faith,
put
my
> >> >> trust
> >> >> in the Heavenly Father and Jesus, and showed up this morning for
> >> >> services.
> >> >
> >> >Why?
> >> >
> >> >"The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins is a very interesting read..
> >>
> >> So is the Bible. Try it sometime.
> >>
> >> Prof. Dawkins should have a chat with Stephen Hawking.
> >
> >
> > I'm somehow not at all surprised that Mr. Know-
> > Nothing responds and regales us with yet another
> > canard and pathetically feeble attempt at misdirection.
> > Will he N E V E R either stop or become contrite?!
> >
> > The most perfidious way of harming a cause consists
> > of defending it deliberately with faulty arguments.
> > - Friedrich Nietzsche
> >
> > Faith, noun. Belief without evidence in what is told by one
> > who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel
> > - Ambrose Bierce
> >
> > Faith may be defined briefly as an illogical belief in the
> > occurrence of the improbable. - H. L. Mencken
> >
> > Faith: not *wanting* to know what is true.
> > - Friedrich Nietzsche
> >
> > Faith, as well intentioned as it may be, must be built on
> > facts, not fiction--faith in fiction is a damnable false hope.
> > - Thomas A. Edison
> >
> > Faith must have adequate evidence, else it is mere
> > superstition. - Alexander Hodge
> >
> > Question with boldness even the existence of God; because,
> > if there is one, he must more approve of the homage of
> > reason than that of blindfolded faith. - Thomas Jefferson
> >
> > A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith
> > does not prove anything. - Friedrich Nietzsche
> >
> > Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning
> > faith, I consider a capacity for it terrifying and absolutely
> > vile! - Kurt Vonnegut
> >
> > In the affairs of the world men are saved, not by faith, but
> > by the want of it. - Benjamin Franklin
> >
> > I slept with faith and found a corpse in my arms on awakening;
> > I drank and danced all night with doubt and found her a virgin
> > in the morning. - Aleister Crowley
> >
> > The smallest of minds are the easiest to fill with faith.
> > - Pope Alexander VI
> >
> > Once there was a time when all people believed in God
> > and the church ruled. This time is called the Dark Ages.
> > - Richard Lederer
> >
> > When the churches literally ruled society, the human
> > drama encompassed: (a) slavery; (b) the cruel subjection
> > of women; (c) the most savage forms of legal punishment;
> > (d) the absurd belief that kings ruled by divine right; (e)
> > the daily imposition of physical abuse; (f) cold heartlessness
> > for the sufferings of the poor; as well as (g) assorted
> > pogroms ("ethnic cleansing" wars) between rival religions,
> > capital punishment for literally hundreds of offenses, and
> > countless other daily imposed moral outrages.... It was the
> > free-thinking, challenging work by people of conscience,
> > who almost invariably had to defy the religious and
> > political status quo of their times, that brought us out of
> > such darkness. - Steve Allen
> >
> > There was a time when I believed in the story and the
> > scheme of salvation, so far as I could understand it,
> > just as I believed there was a Devil.... Suddenly the
> > light broke through to me and I knew this God was a
> > lie.... For indeed it is a silly story, and each generation
> > nowadays swallows it with greater difficulty.... Why
> > do people go on pretending about this Christianity?
> > - H.G. Wells
> >
> > We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity
> > has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further.
> > - Richard Dawkins
> >
> > Religion is the brainchild of fear, and fear is the parent
> > of cruelty. The greatest evils inflicted on humankind are
> > perpetrated not by pleasure-seekers, self-seeking
> > op****tunists, or those who are merely amoral, but by
> > fervent devotees of religion. - Emmanuel Kofi Mensah
> >
> > The man who is always worrying about whether or not
> > his soul would be damned generally has a soul that isn't
> > worth a damn. - Oliver Wendell Holmes Sr.
> >
> > Men become civilized, not in pro****tion to their willingness
> > to believe, but in pro****tion to their readiness to doubt.
> > - H. L. Mencken
> >
> > I have always felt that doubt was the beginning of wisdom,
> > and the fear of God was the end of wisdom.
> > - Clarence Darrow
> >
> > One seldom discovers a true believer that is worth knowing.
> > - H. L. Mencken
> >
> > If a man really believes that God once upheld slavery; that he
> > commanded soldiers to kill women and babes; that he believed
> > in polygamy; that he persecuted for opinion's sake; that he will
> > punish forever, and that he hates an unbeliever, the effect in my
> > judgment will be bad. It always has been bad. This belief built
> > the dungeons of the Inquisition. This belief made the Puritan
> > murder the Quaker. ~ Robert Ingersoll
> >
> > There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the
> > former begets knowledge, the latter ignorance.
> > - Hippocrates
> >
> > Turn over the pages of history and read the damning record
> > of the church's opposition to every advance in every field of
> > science. - Upton Sinclair
> >
> > Acceptance without proof is the fundamental characteristic
> > of Western religion, rejection without proof is the fundamental
> > characteristic of Western science. - Gary Zukav
> >
> > The essence of science is that it is always willing to abandon
> > a given idea for a better one; the essence of theology is that it
> > holds its truths to be eternal and immutable. - H. L. Mencken
> >
> > Just to the extent that the Bible was appealed to in matters
> > of science, science was retarded; and just to the extent that
> > science has been appealed to in matters of religion, religion
> > has advanced - so that now the object of intelligent religionists
> > is to adopt a creed that will bear the test and criticism of
> > science. - Robert Ingersoll
> >
> > Science is facts; just as houses are made of stones, so is
> > science made of facts; but a pile of stones is not a house
> > and a collection of facts is not necessarily science.
> > - Henri Poincare
> >
> > Science has proof without any certainty. Creationists
> > have certainty without any proof. - Ashley Montague
> >
> > The im****tant thing in science is not so much to obtain
> > new facts as to discover new ways of thinking about
> > them. - Sir William Bragg
> >
> > Science is nothing but developed perception, interpreted
> > intent, common sense rounded out and minutely articulated.
> > - George Santayana
> >
> > In science it often happens that scientists say, 'You know
> > that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and
> > then they would actually change their minds and you never
> > hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It
> > doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are
> > human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens
> > every day. I cannot recall the last time someting like that
> > happened in politics or religion. - Carl Sagan
> >
> > What can be asserted without evidence can also be
> > dismissed without evidence. - Christopher Hitchens
> >
> > My atheism, like that of Spinoza, is true piety towards
> > the Universe and denies only gods fa****oned by men
> > in their own image to be servants of their human interests.
> > - George Santayana
> >
> > It was the experience of mystery, even if mixed with fear,
> > that engendered religion. - Albert Einstein
> >
> > "The most im****tant thing is not to stop questioning."
> > - Albert Einstein
>
> Well **** me, I agree with the "." on something ;-)
>
> MP
>
You'll discover that the more you learn, the more you'll agree.


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