On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 17:38:29 -0600, "." <.@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>"6andretti" <dequardo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 07:21:20 -0600, "." <.@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >"6andretti" <dequardo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 09:42:12 -0000, "Mike P" <privacy@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> wrote:
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>> >> >
>> >> >"Von Fourche" <kho****ong@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> >>
>> >> >> The first time in my adult life I did something special today.
I
>> >did
>> >> >> it on
>> >> >> my own too (well, I had the missionaries sitting with me and the
>> >Heavenly
>> >> >> Father and Jesus was leading me) - I went to Church! You don't
know
>> >> >> how hard it was for me to do this. I did it tho. I had faith,
put
>my
>> >> >> trust
>> >> >> in the Heavenly Father and Jesus, and showed up this morning for
>> >> >> services.
>> >> >
>> >> >Why?
>> >> >
>> >> >"The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins is a very interesting read..
>> >>
>> >> So is the Bible. Try it sometime.
>> >>
>> >> Prof. Dawkins should have a chat with Stephen Hawking.
>> >
>> >
>> >I'm somehow not at all surprised that Mr. Know-
>> >Nothing responds and regales us with yet another
>> >canard and pathetically feeble attempt at misdirection.
>> >Will he N E V E R either stop or become contrite?!
>> >
>> >The most perfidious way of harming a cause consists
>> >of defending it deliberately with faulty arguments.
>> > - Friedrich Nietzsche
>> >
>> >Faith, noun. Belief without evidence in what is told by one
>> >who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel
>> > - Ambrose Bierce
>> >
>> >Faith may be defined briefly as an illogical belief in the
>> >occurrence of the improbable. - H. L. Mencken
>> >
>> >Faith: not *wanting* to know what is true.
>> > - Friedrich Nietzsche
>> >
>> >Faith, as well intentioned as it may be, must be built on
>> >facts, not fiction--faith in fiction is a damnable false hope.
>> > - Thomas A. Edison
>> >
>> >Faith must have adequate evidence, else it is mere
>> >superstition. - Alexander Hodge
>> >
>> >Question with boldness even the existence of God; because,
>> >if there is one, he must more approve of the homage of
>> >reason than that of blindfolded faith. - Thomas Jefferson
>> >
>> >A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith
>> >does not prove anything. - Friedrich Nietzsche
>> >
>> >Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning
>> >faith, I consider a capacity for it terrifying and absolutely
>> >vile! - Kurt Vonnegut
>> >
>> >In the affairs of the world men are saved, not by faith, but
>> >by the want of it. - Benjamin Franklin
>> >
>> >I slept with faith and found a corpse in my arms on awakening;
>> >I drank and danced all night with doubt and found her a virgin
>> >in the morning. - Aleister Crowley
>> >
>> >The smallest of minds are the easiest to fill with faith.
>> > - Pope Alexander VI
>> >
>> >Once there was a time when all people believed in God
>> >and the church ruled. This time is called the Dark Ages.
>> > - Richard Lederer
>> >
>> >When the churches literally ruled society, the human
>> >drama encompassed: (a) slavery; (b) the cruel subjection
>> >of women; (c) the most savage forms of legal punishment;
>> >(d) the absurd belief that kings ruled by divine right; (e)
>> >the daily imposition of physical abuse; (f) cold heartlessness
>> >for the sufferings of the poor; as well as (g) assorted
>> >pogroms ("ethnic cleansing" wars) between rival religions,
>> >capital punishment for literally hundreds of offenses, and
>> >countless other daily imposed moral outrages.... It was the
>> >free-thinking, challenging work by people of conscience,
>> >who almost invariably had to defy the religious and
>> >political status quo of their times, that brought us out of
>> >such darkness. - Steve Allen
>> >
>> >There was a time when I believed in the story and the
>> >scheme of salvation, so far as I could understand it,
>> >just as I believed there was a Devil.... Suddenly the
>> >light broke through to me and I knew this God was a
>> >lie.... For indeed it is a silly story, and each generation
>> >nowadays swallows it with greater difficulty.... Why
>> >do people go on pretending about this Christianity?
>> > - H.G. Wells
>> >
>> >We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity
>> >has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further.
>> >- Richard Dawkins
>> >
>> >Religion is the brainchild of fear, and fear is the parent
>> >of cruelty. The greatest evils inflicted on humankind are
>> >perpetrated not by pleasure-seekers, self-seeking
>> >op****tunists, or those who are merely amoral, but by
>> >fervent devotees of religion. - Emmanuel Kofi Mensah
>> >
>> >The man who is always worrying about whether or not
>> >his soul would be damned generally has a soul that isn't
>> >worth a damn. - Oliver Wendell Holmes Sr.
>> >
>> >Men become civilized, not in pro****tion to their willingness
>> >to believe, but in pro****tion to their readiness to doubt.
>> > - H. L. Mencken
>> >
>> >I have always felt that doubt was the beginning of wisdom,
>> >and the fear of God was the end of wisdom.
>> > - Clarence Darrow
>> >
>> >One seldom discovers a true believer that is worth knowing.
>> > - H. L. Mencken
>> >
>> >If a man really believes that God once upheld slavery; that he
>> >commanded soldiers to kill women and babes; that he believed
>> >in polygamy; that he persecuted for opinion's sake; that he will
>> >punish forever, and that he hates an unbeliever, the effect in my
>> >judgment will be bad. It always has been bad. This belief built
>> >the dungeons of the Inquisition. This belief made the Puritan
>> >murder the Quaker. ~ Robert Ingersoll
>> >
>> >There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the
>> >former begets knowledge, the latter ignorance.
>> > - Hippocrates
>> >
>> >Turn over the pages of history and read the damning record
>> >of the church's opposition to every advance in every field of
>> >science. - Upton Sinclair
>> >
>> >Acceptance without proof is the fundamental characteristic
>> >of Western religion, rejection without proof is the fundamental
>> >characteristic of Western science. - Gary Zukav
>> >
>> >The essence of science is that it is always willing to abandon
>> >a given idea for a better one; the essence of theology is that it
>> >holds its truths to be eternal and immutable. - H. L. Mencken
>> >
>> >Just to the extent that the Bible was appealed to in matters
>> >of science, science was retarded; and just to the extent that
>> >science has been appealed to in matters of religion, religion
>> >has advanced - so that now the object of intelligent religionists
>> >is to adopt a creed that will bear the test and criticism of
>> >science. - Robert Ingersoll
>> >
>> >Science is facts; just as houses are made of stones, so is
>> >science made of facts; but a pile of stones is not a house
>> >and a collection of facts is not necessarily science.
>> > - Henri Poincare
>> >
>> >Science has proof without any certainty. Creationists
>> >have certainty without any proof. - Ashley Montague
>> >
>> >The im****tant thing in science is not so much to obtain
>> >new facts as to discover new ways of thinking about
>> >them. - Sir William Bragg
>> >
>> >Science is nothing but developed perception, interpreted
>> >intent, common sense rounded out and minutely articulated.
>> > - George Santayana
>> >
>> >In science it often happens that scientists say, 'You know
>> >that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and
>> >then they would actually change their minds and you never
>> >hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It
>> >doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are
>> >human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens
>> >every day. I cannot recall the last time someting like that
>> >happened in politics or religion. - Carl Sagan
>> >
>> >What can be asserted without evidence can also be
>> >dismissed without evidence. - Christopher Hitchens
>> >
>> >My atheism, like that of Spinoza, is true piety towards
>> >the Universe and denies only gods fa****oned by men
>> >in their own image to be servants of their human interests.
>> > - George Santayana
>> >
>> >It was the experience of mystery, even if mixed with fear,
>> >that engendered religion. - Albert Einstein
>> >
>> >"The most im****tant thing is not to stop questioning."
>> > - Albert Einstein
>>
>> Proof positive the dumber a person is the more they talk. In your
>> case type.
>
>Religious zealots dread the advance of science as witches
>do the approach of daylight and scowl on the fatal harbinger
>announcing the subversions of the duperies on which they
>live. - Thomas Jefferson
>
Proof positive the dumber a person is the more they talk. In your
case type


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