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> "alien" <nofenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> "armpit" <armarmpitpit@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> On Mar 3, 3:02 pm, "RickyBobby" <nasca...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >>> "just bob" <kilby...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >>> >http://www.autos****t.com/news/re****t.php/id/65415
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>> >>> > Finally someone agrees.
>> >>>
>> >>> Sour grapes. If Champ Car was decent and good it would still exist
>> >>> as
> a
>> >>> sole entity.
>> >>>
>> >>> The management made two huge mistakes....
>> >>>
>> >>> They tried to be everything to everybody which never works and they
>> >>> changed
>> >>> so many things year in and year out that they lost any sort of
> relevance
>> >>> they once stole from USAC.
>> >>>
>> >>> Liars and thieve always get caught. No person and no business
>> >>> concern
>> >>> can
>> >>> succeed long term by those means.
>> >>
>> >> sour grapes? Bourdais is long gone making ten times what he did
here
>> >> and clearly is heading to where he belongs in racing.
>> >>
>> >> coming from a person who clearly favors only road courses with a
name
>> >> like that ( no wonder nobody takes you seriously). CART tried to do
>> >> what was needed to keep open wheel racing up with NASCAR. Oh wait,
>> >> you're probably a NASCAR fan, so you don't understand REAL racing
>> >> with REAL race cars...
>> >>
>> >> bourdais is right. its pretty obvious this transition is a win-win
>> >> for the IRL. existing teams will stay at the top of the pile, new
>> >> teams will struggle and hopefully will survive and TV ratings should
>> >> go up because the "ricky bobby's" of the world will actually be able
>> >> to find open wheel US racing on ABC/ESPN.
>> >>
>> >> I bet you believe that the reason villenueve, tracy and other open
>> >> wheel racers aren't making it in NASCAR because they're not real
>> >> racers? lets face it, the good ole boys put hurt on newbies in
their
>> >> club. you have tio learn to cheat to win in NASCAR. blocking
>> >> doesn';t exist and team orders are the norm. Let's push that alltel
>> >> car to the front with miller lite instead of letting home depot
race
>> >> with the alltel. that is all NASCAR fans understand. they justify
it
>> >> by knowing the driver's names and thinking the cars actually are a
>> >> dodge, ford or chevy...
>> >
>> >
>> > Heh. Champ Car is dead. Slamming Nascar and its fans won't bring it
> back,
>> > but maybe it makes you feel better after your loss, eh?
>> >
>>
>> Champ Car isn't dead. They just renamed it to Indycar, or IRL or ICS
or
>> something. Champ Car is finally back to what it was 12 years ago when
it
>> used to be called CART. A mix of super speedways, short ovals, street
>> courses, and road courses. I don't see that as a loss at all. What do
> you
>> mean, loss?
>>
>> alien
>
> Get over it. They didn't rename it.
Yes they did. "They" are calling what CART/Champ Car used to be, Indycar
now. I'm cool with that. I have nothing to get over.
> The IRL picked up a few of their races,
> and TG threw the CC teams a bone by offering cars & money to come to the
> IRL. The Champ Car World Series has ceased to exist in any way, shape,
or
> form. It has been assimilated into the IRL.
The Champ Car World Series does indeed exist, it's just called Indycar
now.
>
> And while you may not see the assimilation as a loss, many CC faithful
> mourn
> the loss of the DP01, Power-to-pass, standing starts, and an oval-free
> series. Some are downright bitter about it.
>
>
I'm glad things are back in place as they were in 1995. I'm not sure what
that split thing was all about in the first place. I've read all the
opinions of why it happened, why it had to happen, why it shouldn't have
happened, and now it comes full circle and is right back to where it was
before it happened. Who woulda figured, huh?
alien
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