Re: Welcome to the Big Time, Bourdais

"SG" <spaamtrapper@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > "alien" <nofenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> "forty" <cforteR3M0V3@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>> armpit wrote:
> >>>> "Lenny" <haysooce@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>>>
> >
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> >>>>> 10. Sebastian Vettel - STR
> >>>>> 18. Sebastien Bourdais - STR
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Vettel had car problems and didn't post a time in Q3, so he could
have
> >>>>> done better.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Bourdais didn't even make it out of Q1.
> >>>>
> >>>> FWIW, fan poll at F1.com says Seabass' performance was better than
> >>>> Rosberg's
> >>>> or Hamilton's...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> I was quite impressed with his driving. Staying in front of those
> >>> contenders with a notably inferior car is quite admirable.
> >>>
> >>> -- 
> >>> forty
> >>>
> >>> "There's a very fine line between not listening, and not caring. I
like
> > to
> >>> think that I walk that line every day of my life."
> >>
> >> He's no slouch, that's for sure.  I was at the Denver race in 2004 or
2005
> >> when he was spun out at the very start of the race.  The entire field
> > passed
> >> him while he was waiting for the safety team to get him going again.
He
> >> came back to pass the entire field and won that race.
> >>
> >> alien
> >>
> >
> > That's not saying much with that field. Any Andretti, and
> > most top drivers in the IRL, would have not only done
> > so, but would have then swept past Bourdais as well.
> >
>
> there's just no quantifiable way to determine this

One could simply look to common ground such as his
participation (and thorough trouncing by those) at Indy.

> > Let's see, started 17th, a first corner casualty, lucked into
> > a higher position due to a safety flag, a disqualification and
> > massive attrition but still managed (while running third from
> > last place) to blow his engine (causing a problem for pole
> > sitter and eventual winner Hamilton) and could not finish the
> > F1 race. Now that's REAL success (to and for a chump).
> >
> >
>
> at least, that he's even in F1 says he has talent and is a success

Hardly! Andretti, Kanaan, Wheldon ... would quite
fittingly NEVER have (and didn't need to as he had)
deigned to accept such a third class ride.