Re: Welcome to the Big Time, Bourdais

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>> >> >>> 10. Sebastian Vettel - STR
>> >> >>> 18. Sebastien Bourdais - STR
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Vettel had car problems and didn't post a time in Q3, so he
could
>> >> >>> have
>> >> >>> done better.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Bourdais didn't even make it out of Q1.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> FWIW, fan poll at F1.com says Seabass' performance was better
than
>> >> >> Rosberg's
>> >> >> or Hamilton's...
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > I was quite impressed with his driving. Staying in front of those
>> >> > contenders with a notably inferior car is quite admirable.
>> >> >
>> >> > -- 
>> >> > forty
>> >> >
>> >> > "There's a very fine line between not listening, and not caring. I
> like
>> > to
>> >> > think that I walk that line every day of my life."
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> He's no slouch, that's for sure.  I was at the Denver race in 2004
or
>> >> 2005
>> >> when he was spun out at the very start of the race.  The entire
field
>> > passed
>> >> him while he was waiting for the safety team to get him going again.
> He
>> >> came back to pass the entire field and won that race.
>> >>
>> >> alien
>> >>
>> >
>> > That's not saying much with that field. Any Andretti, and
>> > most top drivers in the IRL, would have not only done
>> > so, but would have then swept past Bourdais as well.
>>
>> Well if Seabass lasts longer than 13 races, he'll have already done 
>> better
>> than Michael
>
> Many, including both DaMatta and Zanardi stayed far longer,
> in fact entirely too long, yet didn't begin to accomplish nearly as
> much in all that time as Michael Andretti did in considerably less.
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>> > Let's see, started 17th, a first corner casualty, lucked into
>> > a higher position due to a safety flag, a disqualification and
>> > massive attrition
>>
>> That's what he's employed to do. Keep it on the track when others are 
>> busy
>> falling off and getting DQ'd.
>>
>> Michael Andretti managed 4 laps in his first 3 GPS, all due to
accidents
> of
>> his own making..
>
> Does mechanical error or the name Wendlinger ring
> a bell? How did either he or Senna fare, what are they
> doing these days and which would you rather be? You
> quite clearly don't know what you're talking about.
>
>>.he did improve a lot in the latter part of the season,
>> but
>> Seb's started off better than he did.
>
> Michael: wasn't forced to plead for and finally have a position
> granted with a series bottom dweller, wasn't allowed to benefit
> from testing, didn't qualify 17th, didn't screwup the first corner,

I think you'll find, dotty boy, that in his first race, ran into the back
of 
Derek Warwick on the 4th lap and crashed out. So yes, I'm wrong. However, 
his second race he screwed the start up and ended in the gravel at the
first 
corner. Oh, and guess what happened again in his 3rd race? Yes, off at the

first corner again... then IIRC he spun out at San Marino, finished 8th at

Monaco after driving on the pace between taking his nose off on other cars
a 
couple of times, off at the first corner in Silverstone..

Bourdais sure has a lot to live up to to be that bad.



> didn't detonate his engine, didn't oil spray the leader, didn't
> benefit from a disqualification, didn't gain positions from the
> massive attrition of more than 75% of the field

Well he wouldn't would he? He rarely stayed on the track long enough to
get 
the chance.

He did ok in Hungary and got a podium in Monza though, so he did learn , 
albeit slowly


>... Again, and
> as usual, you simply don't know what you're talking about,
> but then that's your usual modus operandi.

I think you'll find everything above is factually correct...

>> >but still managed (while running third from
>> > last place) to blow his engine (causing a problem for pole
>> > sitter and eventual winner Hamilton) and could not finish the
>> > F1 race.
>> Much more of this, he'll have to change his name to Andretti..


> You have no business mentioning them in the same sentence.

Obviously. Such a shame to mention a 4 time champion in the same sentence
as 
the most overrated family in Motors****t.

I suspect you will counter that by saying that Seabass never beat anyone 
good in Champcar... which is just the same as AGR in the IRL


Mike P