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Re: Welcome to the Big Time, Bourdais

by "." <.@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 17, 2008 at 06:11 PM

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> >> >> "forty" <cforteR3M0V3@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> >> >> "Lenny" <haysooce@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> >> >>
> >> >
> >
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> >> >> >>> 10. Sebastian Vettel - STR
> >> >> >>> 18. Sebastien Bourdais - STR
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Vettel had car problems and didn't post a time in Q3, so he
could
> >> >> >>> have
> >> >> >>> done better.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Bourdais didn't even make it out of Q1.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> FWIW, fan poll at F1.com says Seabass' performance was better
than
> >> >> >> Rosberg's
> >> >> >> or Hamilton's...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I was quite impressed with his driving. Staying in front of
those
> >> >> > contenders with a notably inferior car is quite admirable.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -- 
> >> >> > forty
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "There's a very fine line between not listening, and not caring.
I
> > like
> >> > to
> >> >> > think that I walk that line every day of my life."
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> He's no slouch, that's for sure.  I was at the Denver race in 2004
or
> >> >> 2005
> >> >> when he was spun out at the very start of the race.  The entire
field
> >> > passed
> >> >> him while he was waiting for the safety team to get him going
again.
> > He
> >> >> came back to pass the entire field and won that race.
> >> >>
> >> >> alien
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > That's not saying much with that field. Any Andretti, and
> >> > most top drivers in the IRL, would have not only done
> >> > so, but would have then swept past Bourdais as well.
> >>
> >> Well if Seabass lasts longer than 13 races, he'll have already done
> >> better
> >> than Michael
> >
> > Many, including both DaMatta and Zanardi stayed far longer,
> > in fact entirely too long, yet didn't begin to accomplish nearly as
> > much in all that time as Michael Andretti did in considerably less.
> > news:oReCj.24001$XO4.11753@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >> > Let's see, started 17th, a first corner casualty, lucked into
> >> > a higher position due to a safety flag, a disqualification and
> >> > massive attrition
> >>
> >> That's what he's employed to do. Keep it on the track when others are
> >> busy
> >> falling off and getting DQ'd.
> >>
> >> Michael Andretti managed 4 laps in his first 3 GPS, all due to
accidents
> > of
> >> his own making..
> >
> > Does mechanical error or the name Wendlinger ring
> > a bell? How did either he or Senna fare, what are they
> > doing these days and which would you rather be? You
> > quite clearly don't know what you're talking about.
> >
> >>.he did improve a lot in the latter part of the season,
> >> but
> >> Seb's started off better than he did.
> >
> > Michael: wasn't forced to plead for and finally have a position
> > granted with a series bottom dweller, wasn't allowed to benefit
> > from testing, didn't qualify 17th, didn't screwup the first corner,
>
> I think you'll find, dotty boy, that in his first race, ran into the
back
of
> Derek Warwick on the 4th lap and crashed out. So yes, I'm wrong.
However,
> his second race he screwed the start up and ended in the gravel at the
first
> corner. Oh, and guess what happened again in his 3rd race? Yes, off at
the
> first corner again... then IIRC he spun out at San Marino, finished 8th
at
> Monaco after driving on the pace between taking his nose off on other
cars
a
> couple of times, off at the first corner in Silverstone..
>
> Bourdais sure has a lot to live up to to be that bad.
>
>
>
> > didn't detonate his engine, didn't oil spray the leader, didn't
> > benefit from a disqualification, didn't gain positions from the
> > massive attrition of more than 75% of the field
>
> Well he wouldn't would he? He rarely stayed on the track long enough to
get
> the chance.
>
> He did ok in Hungary and got a podium in Monza though, so he did learn ,
> albeit slowly
>
>
> >... Again, and
> > as usual, you simply don't know what you're talking about,
> > but then that's your usual modus operandi.
>
> I think you'll find everything above is factually correct...
>
> >> >but still managed (while running third from
> >> > last place) to blow his engine (causing a problem for pole
> >> > sitter and eventual winner Hamilton) and could not finish the
> >> > F1 race.
> >> Much more of this, he'll have to change his name to Andretti..
>
>
> > You have no business mentioning them in the same sentence.
>
> Obviously. Such a shame to mention a 4 time champion in the same
sentence
as
> the most overrated family in Motors****t.
>
> I suspect you will counter that by saying that Seabass never beat anyone
> good in Champcar... which is just the same as AGR in the IRL
>
>
> Mike P

Trying to compare CARTs all time winningest driver, Ayrton
Senna's teammate, plus the IRL's winningest team owner,
two time Indy 500 and 3 time season champions and all in
just five short years with arguably one of the most famous
names in the world, to a nobody competing against nameless
competition, virtually no accomplishments or respect driving
for a winless perennial bottom dwelling team?!?!?! I think
Paul (Marlon Brando) in "Ultimo Tango a Parigi" ("Last
Tango in Paris") might have said it best when he uttered
the infamous words: "What a steaming pile of horse****!".
 




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Welcome to the Big Time, Bourdais
Lenny <haysooce@[EMAIL  2008-03-15 07:29:07 
Re: Welcome to the Big Time, Bourdais
"Green Turtle"   2008-03-15 23:25:30 
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Dan the Man <dan708@[E  2008-03-15 17:54:09 
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"Scottsdale Guy"  2008-03-15 23:09:07 
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Steve T <stev@[EMAIL P  2008-03-16 16:38:38 
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"schla66@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-16 09:51:15 
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"armpit" <ar  2008-03-16 13:10:34 
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forty <cforteR3M0V3@[E  2008-03-17 08:55:25 
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"alien" <nof  2008-03-17 14:14:06 
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"." <.@[EMAI  2008-03-17 10:00:55 
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SG <spaamtrapper@[EMAI  2008-03-17 11:06:34 
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"." <.@[EMAI  2008-03-17 11:37:31 
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"Mike P" <pr  2008-03-17 18:42:50 
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"." <.@[EMAI  2008-03-17 15:00:46 
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"Mike P" <pr  2008-03-17 18:40:03 
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"." <.@[EMAI  2008-03-17 15:05:19 
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"Mike P" <pr  2008-03-17 21:18:04 
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"Mike P" <pr  2008-03-17 23:04:52 
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"." <.@[EMAI  2008-03-17 18:16:39 
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"Mike P" <pr  2008-03-18 08:35:19 
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"." <.@[EMAI  2008-03-18 08:36:53 
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"Mike P" <pr  2008-03-18 15:07:18 
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"." <.@[EMAI  2008-03-18 15:06:08 
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6andretti <nooneukno@[  2008-03-19 06:10:06 
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6andretti <nooneukno@[  2008-03-19 06:08:44 
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"." <.@[EMAI  2008-03-17 18:11:49 
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"Mike P" <pr  2008-03-18 08:43:32 
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"." <.@[EMAI  2008-03-18 08:41:22 
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"Mike P" <pr  2008-03-18 15:04:00 
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"." <.@[EMAI  2008-03-18 14:59:46 
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"Mike P" <pr  2008-03-18 20:20:41 
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"." <.@[EMAI  2008-03-18 15:36:36 
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"Mike P" <pr  2008-03-18 21:00:13 
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"Mike P" <pr  2008-03-18 20:24:05 
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"AC" <xxxx@[  2008-03-18 18:04:12 
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forty <cforteR3M0V3@[E  2008-03-18 14:05:06 
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"AC" <xxxx@[  2008-03-18 18:08:52 
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forty <cforteR3M0V3@[E  2008-03-18 14:13:37 
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"." <.@[EMAI  2008-03-18 15:10:36 
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forty <cforteR3M0V3@[E  2008-03-18 16:41:20 
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"AC" <xxxx@[  2008-03-19 01:54:00 
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"." <.@[EMAI  2008-03-19 09:46:07 
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"Mike P" <pr  2008-03-19 19:20:46 
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6andretti <nooneukno@[  2008-03-17 18:28:56 
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6andretti <nooneukno@[  2008-03-17 18:26:04 
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"." <.@[EMAI  2008-03-17 18:31:18 
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6andretti <nooneukno@[  2008-03-17 18:36:41 
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"." <.@[EMAI  2008-03-17 18:42:11 
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6andretti <nooneukno@[  2008-03-18 06:00:03 
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Lenny <haysooce@[EMAIL  2008-03-17 07:20:49 
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Lenny <haysooce@[EMAIL  2008-03-17 12:09:27 
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IndyCar Garage <indyca  2008-03-17 19:05:12 
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Ken Plotkin <kplotkin@  2008-03-18 00:04:56 
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Steve T <stev@[EMAIL P  2008-03-21 07:26:25 
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Lenny <haysooce@[EMAIL  2008-03-18 11:49:43 
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forty <cforteR3M0V3@[E  2008-03-18 15:00:08 
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Lenny <haysooce@[EMAIL  2008-03-18 12:32:35 
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"Mike P" <pr  2008-03-18 19:42:08 
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"schla66@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-18 13:43:25 
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"." <.@[EMAI  2008-03-18 15:55:20 
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"Mike P" <pr  2008-03-18 21:01:59 
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6andretti <nooneukno@[  2008-03-19 06:12:57 
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"schla66@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-18 13:44:06 
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"Powell's Colon"  2008-03-19 13:28:50 

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