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Re: Welcome to the Big Time, Bourdais

by "." <.@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 17, 2008 at 06:16 PM

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> "Mike P" <privacy@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > "." <.@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> "Mike P" <privacy@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>> "." <.@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>> > "alien" <nofenders@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>> >> "forty" <cforteR3M0V3@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>> >> news:64781tF298q2tU3@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> >> > armpit wrote:
> >>> >> >> "Lenny" <haysooce@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>> >
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> >>> >
> >>> > That's not saying much with that field. Any Andretti, and
> >>> > most top drivers in the IRL, would have not only done
> >>> > so, but would have then swept past Bourdais as well.
> >>>
> >>> Well if Seabass lasts longer than 13 races, he'll have already done
> >>> better than Michael
>
> >> Many, including both DaMatta and Zanardi stayed far longer,
> >> in fact entirely too long, yet didn't begin to accomplish nearly as
> >> much in all that time as Michael Andretti did in considerably less.
> >> news:oReCj.24001$XO4.11753@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> So they accomplished **** all too, it just took them longer! Brilliant !
>
>
> >>> > Let's see, started 17th, a first corner casualty, lucked into
> >>> > a higher position due to a safety flag, a disqualification and
> >>> > massive attrition
> >>>
> >>> That's what he's employed to do. Keep it on the track when others
are
> >>> busy falling off and getting DQ'd.
> >>>
> >>> Michael Andretti managed 4 laps in his first 3 GPS, all due to
accidents
> >> of his own making..
> >>
> >> Does mechanical error or the name Wendlinger ring
> >> a bell? How did either he or Senna fare?
>
> Well, Michael achieved a few points and one podium, Senna finished 2nd
in
> the title race in the same car.
> There was no mechanical error (surely you mean failure?) In the first
three
> races. If Michael hadn't screwed the start in Brazil.. by forgetting to
> change gear (!?) Wendlinger wouldn't have been near him. It was actually
> Berger who finally took him off, but the accident was of Michael's own
> making
>
> >>what are they doing these days and which would you rather be? You
quite
> >>clearly don't know what you're talking about.
>
> I get a choice between dying a legendary racing driver, hero to millions
> worldwide.. or a fat chap who never really won that much and whines a
lot?
> Hmm.... let me think.
>
>
> >>>.he did improve a lot in the latter part of the season, but Seb's
started
> >>>off better than he did.
> >>
> >> Michael: wasn't forced to plead for and finally have a position
> >> granted with a series bottom dweller, wasn't allowed to benefit
> >> from testing, didn't qualify 17th, didn't screwup the first corner,
> >
> > I think you'll find, dotty boy, that in his first race, ran into the
back
> > of Derek Warwick on the 4th lap and crashed out. So yes, I'm wrong.
> > However, his second race he screwed the start up and ended in the
gravel
> > at the first corner. Oh, and guess what happened again in his 3rd
race?
> > Yes, off at the first corner again... then IIRC he spun out at San
Marino,
> > finished 8th at Monaco after driving on the pace between taking his
nose
> > off on other cars a couple of times, off at the first corner in
> > Silverstone..
> >
> > Bourdais sure has a lot to live up to to be that bad.
> >
> >
> >
> >> didn't detonate his engine, didn't oil spray the leader, didn't
> >> benefit from a disqualification, didn't gain positions from the
> >> massive attrition of more than 75% of the field
> >
> > Well he wouldn't would he? He rarely stayed on the track long enough
to
> > get the chance.
> >
> > He did ok in Hungary and got a podium in Monza though, so he did learn
,
> > albeit slowly
> >
> >
> >>... Again, and
> >> as usual, you simply don't know what you're talking about,
> >> but then that's your usual modus operandi.
> >
> > I think you'll find everything above is factually correct...
> >
> >>> >but still managed (while running third from
> >>> > last place) to blow his engine (causing a problem for pole
> >>> > sitter and eventual winner Hamilton) and could not finish the
> >>> > F1 race.
> >>> Much more of this, he'll have to change his name to Andretti..
> >
> >
> >> You have no business mentioning them in the same sentence.
> >
> > Obviously. Such a shame to mention a 4 time champion in the same
sentence
> > as the most overrated family in Motors****t.
> >
> > I suspect you will counter that by saying that Seabass never beat
anyone
> > good in Champcar... which is just the same as AGR in the IRL
> >
> >
> > Mike P
> >

Wow, what a truly pathetic attempt at a rebuttal, and it
only took two attempts and at least an hour and forty
six minutes at that. Btw, I don't remember Wendlinger
being all that fat or whining (the one thing that chumps
truly are champions at).
 




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Welcome to the Big Time, Bourdais
Lenny <haysooce@[EMAIL  2008-03-15 07:29:07 
Re: Welcome to the Big Time, Bourdais
"Green Turtle"   2008-03-15 23:25:30 
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Dan the Man <dan708@[E  2008-03-15 17:54:09 
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"Scottsdale Guy"  2008-03-15 23:09:07 
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Steve T <stev@[EMAIL P  2008-03-16 16:38:38 
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"schla66@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-16 09:51:15 
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"armpit" <ar  2008-03-16 13:10:34 
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forty <cforteR3M0V3@[E  2008-03-17 08:55:25 
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"alien" <nof  2008-03-17 14:14:06 
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"." <.@[EMAI  2008-03-17 10:00:55 
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SG <spaamtrapper@[EMAI  2008-03-17 11:06:34 
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"." <.@[EMAI  2008-03-17 11:37:31 
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"Mike P" <pr  2008-03-17 18:42:50 
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"." <.@[EMAI  2008-03-17 15:00:46 
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"Mike P" <pr  2008-03-17 18:40:03 
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"." <.@[EMAI  2008-03-17 15:05:19 
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"Mike P" <pr  2008-03-17 21:18:04 
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"Mike P" <pr  2008-03-17 23:04:52 
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"." <.@[EMAI  2008-03-17 18:16:39 
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"Mike P" <pr  2008-03-18 08:35:19 
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"." <.@[EMAI  2008-03-18 08:36:53 
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"Mike P" <pr  2008-03-18 15:07:18 
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"." <.@[EMAI  2008-03-18 15:06:08 
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"." <.@[EMAI  2008-03-17 18:11:49 
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"Mike P" <pr  2008-03-18 08:43:32 
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"." <.@[EMAI  2008-03-18 08:41:22 
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"Mike P" <pr  2008-03-18 15:04:00 
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"." <.@[EMAI  2008-03-18 14:59:46 
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"Mike P" <pr  2008-03-18 20:20:41 
Re: Welcome to the Big Time, Bourdais
"." <.@[EMAI  2008-03-18 15:36:36 
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"Mike P" <pr  2008-03-18 21:00:13 
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"Mike P" <pr  2008-03-18 20:24:05 
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"AC" <xxxx@[  2008-03-18 18:04:12 
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forty <cforteR3M0V3@[E  2008-03-18 14:05:06 
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"AC" <xxxx@[  2008-03-18 18:08:52 
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forty <cforteR3M0V3@[E  2008-03-18 14:13:37 
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"." <.@[EMAI  2008-03-18 15:10:36 
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forty <cforteR3M0V3@[E  2008-03-18 16:41:20 
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"AC" <xxxx@[  2008-03-19 01:54:00 
Re: Welcome to the Big Time, Bourdais
"." <.@[EMAI  2008-03-19 09:46:07 
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"Mike P" <pr  2008-03-19 19:20:46 
Re: Welcome to the Big Time, Bourdais
6andretti <nooneukno@[  2008-03-17 18:28:56 
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"." <.@[EMAI  2008-03-17 18:31:18 
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6andretti <nooneukno@[  2008-03-17 18:36:41 
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"." <.@[EMAI  2008-03-17 18:42:11 
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6andretti <nooneukno@[  2008-03-18 06:00:03 
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Lenny <haysooce@[EMAIL  2008-03-17 07:20:49 
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Lenny <haysooce@[EMAIL  2008-03-17 12:09:27 
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IndyCar Garage <indyca  2008-03-17 19:05:12 
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Ken Plotkin <kplotkin@  2008-03-18 00:04:56 
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Steve T <stev@[EMAIL P  2008-03-21 07:26:25 
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Lenny <haysooce@[EMAIL  2008-03-18 11:49:43 
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forty <cforteR3M0V3@[E  2008-03-18 15:00:08 
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Lenny <haysooce@[EMAIL  2008-03-18 12:32:35 
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"Mike P" <pr  2008-03-18 19:42:08 
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"schla66@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-18 13:43:25 
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"." <.@[EMAI  2008-03-18 15:55:20 
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"Mike P" <pr  2008-03-18 21:01:59 
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6andretti <nooneukno@[  2008-03-19 06:12:57 
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"schla66@[EMAIL PROT  2008-03-18 13:44:06 
Re: Welcome to the Big Time, Bourdais
"Powell's Colon"  2008-03-19 13:28:50 

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