Re: Welcome to the Big Time, Bourdais

Lenny wrote:
> On Mar 18, 2:13 pm, forty <cforteR3M...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> AC wrote:
>>> "forty" <cforteR3M...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> AC wrote:
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>>>>>> "Mike P" <priv...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>> <another big snip
>>>>>>>>> I suspect you will counter that by saying that Seabass never
beat
>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>>> good in Champcar... which is just the same as AGR in the IRL
>>>>>>>>> Mike P
>>>>>>>> Trying to compare CARTs all time winningest driver, Ayrton
>>>>>>>> Senna's teammate, plus the IRL's winningest team owner,
>>>>>>>> two time Indy 500 and 3 time season champions and all in
>>>>>>>> just five short years with arguably one of the most famous
>>>>>>>> names in the world, to a nobody competing against nameless
>>>>>>>> competition, virtually no accomplishments or respect driving
>>>>>>>> for a winless perennial bottom dwelling team?!?!?! I think
>>>>>>>> Paul (Marlon Brando) in "Ultimo Tango a Parigi" ("Last
>>>>>>>> Tango in Paris") might have said it best when he uttered
>>>>>>>> the infamous words: "What a steaming pile of horse****!".
>>>>>>> Get your facts straight, Michael NEVER won the Indy 500 as a
driver.
>>>>>> More canard, of course I neither said nor implied that he
>>>>>> had won it as a driver, as I've in fact stated before:
>>>>>> "Michael Andretti has now won the Indy 500 twice, in
>>>>>> the same manner that Roger Penske is said to have
>>>>>> won it more than a dozern times, despite the fact that
>>>>>> the latter never once led a single lap or even so much
>>>>>> as participated in it as a driver ..."
>>>>>>
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.s****t.cart/msg/b56ac8bfb714e3ad
>>>>>>> I quote.....  "to a nobody competing against nameless
competition"...
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> yourself, Mr Dot, admitted the IRL was a pile of ****e before
2003. So
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> fact competing against nobodies is exactly what AGR have been
doing
>>>>>>> You're funny, it's ace
>>>>>>> Mike P
>>>>>> But there were years in which the CART/CCWS/OWRS/
>>>>>> ChumpCar drivers did in fact compete in the IRL Indy 500.
>>>>>> But of course doofus AGR never competed, or existed, in
>>>>>> the IRL prior to 2003. What a complete and utter moron.
>>>>> Of course Micheal Andretti was a 3rd rate driver who fundamentally
failed
>>>>> in the elite F1 series, but to call him an utter moron is a bit
much.
>>>>> AC
>>>> That's a bit harsh, too. I'd at least give him 2nd rate status.
>>> Comprimise?  2.5th rate?
>>> AC
>> Yeah, that sounds reasonable.
> 
> That sounds a bit high, but I defer to the two of you.
> 
> When he first went to F1, I changed my usual opinion of him and pulled
> for him -- for the first three races. After that, I didn't admit that
> I knew he was in F1.

After thinking about it, 2nd rate was a little too much for him. After 
all, Rubens spent his F1 career as a '2nd rate' driver. Mike weren't no 
Rubens...

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