Re: Welcome to the Big Time, Bourdais

"Mike P" <privacy@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > "Mike P" <privacy@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> <another big snip
> >>
> >>
> >> >> I suspect you will counter that by saying that Seabass never beat
> > anyone
> >> >> good in Champcar... which is just the same as AGR in the IRL
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike P
> >> >
> >> > Trying to compare CARTs all time winningest driver, Ayrton
> >> > Senna's teammate, plus the IRL's winningest team owner,
> >> > two time Indy 500 and 3 time season champions and all in
> >> > just five short years with arguably one of the most famous
> >> > names in the world, to a nobody competing against nameless
> >> > competition, virtually no accomplishments or respect driving
> >> > for a winless perennial bottom dwelling team?!?!?! I think
> >> > Paul (Marlon Brando) in "Ultimo Tango a Parigi" ("Last
> >> > Tango in Paris") might have said it best when he uttered
> >> > the infamous words: "What a steaming pile of horse****!".
> >>
> >>
> >> Get your facts straight, Michael NEVER won the Indy 500 as a driver.
> >
> > More canard, of course I neither said nor implied that he
> > had won it as a driver, as I've in fact stated before:
> >
> > "Michael Andretti has now won the Indy 500 twice, in
> > the same manner that Roger Penske is said to have
> > won it more than a dozern times, despite the fact that
> > the latter never once led a single lap or even so much
> > as participated in it as a driver ..."
>
> Michael Andretti or Roger Penske has never won the Indy 500. End of.
Their
> drivers have, their cars have, but they have not. FACT.
> It's a sad day when you don't have to actually compete to win something.
You
> have a weird view of life.

It's not just me, failed pathetic bull**** artist, it's the racing
and journalistic communities that have made that reference:

Roger Penske has won the Indianapolis 500 13 times
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9904E1D61E3EF933A05756C0A9629C8B63

Roger Penske has won the biggest event in racing these days
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/s****ts/columns/georgevecsey/index.html

Roger Penske has won 12 "500s" and won consecutive races four times
http://www.indycar.com/news/story.php?story_id=1182

Roger Penske has won and lost poles at Indianapolis and
even failed to qualify by not getting the strategy right.
http://s****ts.espn.go.com/rpm/columns/story?seriesId=1&columnist=oreovicz_john&id=2868739

Roger Penske has won Indy 13 times
http://www.sponsorfacts.com/bground.php

You really should attempt to educate yourself about matters
which you clearly currently know nothing of but nonetheless
desperately desire to express an opinion about.

> >> I quote.....  "to a nobody competing against nameless competition"...
you
> >> yourself, Mr Dot, admitted the IRL was a pile of ****e before 2003.
So
in
> >> fact competing against nobodies is exactly what AGR have been doing
> >>
> >> You're funny, it's ace
> >>
> >> Mike P
> >
> > But there were years in which the CART/CCWS/OWRS/
> > ChumpCar drivers did in fact compete in the IRL Indy 500.
>
> Yes, they usually won when they did too. Oh, until Uncle Tony decided
they
> couldn't and DQ'd them
>
> > But of course doofus AGR never competed, or existed, in
> > the IRL prior to 2003. What a complete and utter moron.
>
> So AGR have won a valueless race against no real competition since 2003.
> What a fantastic achievement.

Let's see, they've won while competing against: The all time
winningest CART team, the all time winningest CCWS team,
the all time winningest Indy 500 team, consecutive CART
champion****p teams, the consecutive CCWS champion****p
team, consecutive Indy 500 winning teams ...  Among those
drivers that competed (which included both Cart and CCWS
champions) during that time period were Michael Andretti,
Tony Kanaan, Dario Franchitti, Dan Wheldon, Gil de Ferran,
Helio Castroneves, Scott Dixon, Adrian Fernandez, Scott
Sharp, Sebastien Bourdais, Bruno Junqueira, and on and
on ad infinitum.

Btw, it's funny how you have so little respect for the opinion
of "a legendary racing driver, hero to millions worldwide"
(not exactly known for his complimentary attitude or remarks
toward either teammates or other competitiors) who famously
said that Michael was a good driver, wasn't given a fair shot
and gave that treatment as a partial reason for departing that
team at the end of the season

Whereas your uninformed, invalid arguments continue to be
almost exclusively constructed from fantasms and based
upon ignorant, ugly envy and hatred mine, as always and in
quite stark contrast, are sup****ted, do***ented and more
academically approached exercises which blow yours out
of the water each and every time without fail. Why don't you
stop embarrassing yourself and simply end this charade?