Re: Welcome to the Big Time, Bourdais

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>> >> <another big snip
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >> I suspect you will counter that by saying that Seabass never beat
>> > anyone
>> >> >> good in Champcar... which is just the same as AGR in the IRL
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Mike P
>> >> >
>> >> > Trying to compare CARTs all time winningest driver, Ayrton
>> >> > Senna's teammate, plus the IRL's winningest team owner,
>> >> > two time Indy 500 and 3 time season champions and all in
>> >> > just five short years with arguably one of the most famous
>> >> > names in the world, to a nobody competing against nameless
>> >> > competition, virtually no accomplishments or respect driving
>> >> > for a winless perennial bottom dwelling team?!?!?! I think
>> >> > Paul (Marlon Brando) in "Ultimo Tango a Parigi" ("Last
>> >> > Tango in Paris") might have said it best when he uttered
>> >> > the infamous words: "What a steaming pile of horse****!".
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Get your facts straight, Michael NEVER won the Indy 500 as a driver.
>> >
>> > More canard, of course I neither said nor implied that he
>> > had won it as a driver, as I've in fact stated before:
>> >
>> > "Michael Andretti has now won the Indy 500 twice, in
>> > the same manner that Roger Penske is said to have
>> > won it more than a dozern times, despite the fact that
>> > the latter never once led a single lap or even so much
>> > as participated in it as a driver ..."
>>
>> Michael Andretti or Roger Penske has never won the Indy 500. End of. 
>> Their
>> drivers have, their cars have, but they have not. FACT.
>> It's a sad day when you don't have to actually compete to win
something.
> You
>> have a weird view of life.
>
> It's not just me, failed pathetic bull**** artist, it's the racing
> and journalistic communities that have made that reference:
>
> Roger Penske has won the Indianapolis 500 13 times
>
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9904E1D61E3EF933A05756C0A9629C8B63
>
> Roger Penske has won the biggest event in racing these days
>
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/s****ts/columns/georgevecsey/index.html
>
> Roger Penske has won 12 "500s" and won consecutive races four times
> http://www.indycar.com/news/story.php?story_id=1182
>
> Roger Penske has won and lost poles at Indianapolis and
> even failed to qualify by not getting the strategy right.
>
http://s****ts.espn.go.com/rpm/columns/story?seriesId=1&columnist=oreovicz_john&id=2868739
>
> Roger Penske has won Indy 13 times
> http://www.sponsorfacts.com/bground.php
>
> You really should attempt to educate yourself about matters
> which you clearly currently know nothing of but nonetheless
> desperately desire to express an opinion about.
>
>> >> I quote.....  "to a nobody competing against nameless
competition"...
> you
>> >> yourself, Mr Dot, admitted the IRL was a pile of ****e before 2003.
So
> in
>> >> fact competing against nobodies is exactly what AGR have been doing
>> >>
>> >> You're funny, it's ace
>> >>
>> >> Mike P
>> >
>> > But there were years in which the CART/CCWS/OWRS/
>> > ChumpCar drivers did in fact compete in the IRL Indy 500.
>>
>> Yes, they usually won when they did too. Oh, until Uncle Tony decided 
>> they
>> couldn't and DQ'd them
>>
>> > But of course doofus AGR never competed, or existed, in
>> > the IRL prior to 2003. What a complete and utter moron.
>>
>> So AGR have won a valueless race against no real competition since
2003.
>> What a fantastic achievement.
>
> Let's see, they've won while competing against: The all time
> winningest CART team, the all time winningest CCWS team,
> the all time winningest Indy 500 team, consecutive CART
> champion****p teams, the consecutive CCWS champion****p
> team, consecutive Indy 500 winning teams ...

Yes, in a low-rent series, in spec cars. No real achievement, especially 
when Mr Honda likes you.

> Among those drivers that competed (which included both Cart and CCWS
> champions) during that time period were Michael Andretti,
> Tony Kanaan, Dario Franchitti, Dan Wheldon, Gil de Ferran,
> Helio Castroneves, Scott Dixon, Adrian Fernandez, Scott
> Sharp, Sebastien Bourdais, Bruno Junqueira, and on and
> on ad infinitum.

And this list of drivers is supposed to be impressive? All too slow to get

(or keep if they got) a ride in F1?


> Btw, it's funny how you have so little respect for the opinion
> of "a legendary racing driver, hero to millions worldwide"
> (not exactly known for his complimentary attitude or remarks
> toward either teammates or other competitiors) who famously
> said that Michael was a good driver, wasn't given a fair shot
> and gave that treatment as a partial reason for departing that
> team at the end of the season
>
> Whereas your uninformed, invalid arguments continue to be
> almost exclusively constructed from fantasms

Everything I said can be confirmed in many places on the internet. I shall

provide a link to one such site.

http://www.f1rejects.com/centrale/andretti/index.html

Now can I have an example of your accuracy?

> Why don't you
> stop embarrassing yourself and simply end this charade?

Cos it's too much fun wondering what tripe you are going to spout next.

>and based upon ignorant, ugly envy and hatred mine, as always and in
> quite stark contrast, are sup****ted, do***ented and more
> academically approached exercises which blow yours out
> of the water each and every time without fail.

I'm unsure what I'm supposed to be envious of really. You've confused me 
now.