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Re: regenerative braking

by John Bailey <john_bailey@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 3, 2008 at 09:06 AM

On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 11:52:51 GMT, "Androcles"
<Headmaster@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>
>"RichD" <r_delaney2001@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
>news:fc536e3e-6d54-45fc-a36a-31c432e32c58@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>| What is the efficiency of regenerative brakes?
>|
>|
>| Let's say we have a 3000 lb. vehicle, traveling 30 mph.
>| It hits a red lght.  That's 1350000 lb-(mi/hr)^2
>| kinetic energy, dissipated through the disc brakes.
>|
>| Now assume it's a Prius - how much is recovered
>| into the batteries?
>|
>| I'm not looking for a theoretical discussion, just a
>| number.  Anybody know the number?
>|
>
>80%.  Friction with air still causes some braking but most
>of the KE is recovered and stored as useful energy to get
>going again. Remember that no energy is required to continue
>in a vacuum, so all the energy a car uses is wasted as heat
>directly through the exhaust pipe and radiator and the rest
>warms the atmosphere through friction.
>
Is that a fact and reason based answer or just a guess?  A battery is
not as efficient as a capacitor and there is a theorem from sophomore
EE that "proves" no more than 1/2 the energy stored in a capacitor can
be recovered.  More personal research would be needed to recover the
proof, but that would imply something like 40% of the KE absorbed by
the regenerative brakes could be recovered.

An Analysis of Hybrid Electric Propulsion Systems for Transit Buses
Milestone Completion Re****t by O’Keefe and Vertin of the
National Renewable Energy Laboratory
http://tinyurl.com/292xyt
gives the efficiency of regenerative braking
as 49-50% at best and 39% as current practice.
 




 20 Posts in Topic:
Re: regenerative braking
"Androcles" <  2008-02-03 11:52:51 
Re: regenerative braking
John Bailey <john_bail  2008-02-03 09:06:42 
Re: regenerative braking
"Androcles" <  2008-02-03 16:19:06 
Re: regenerative braking
Steve <no@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-02-04 10:17:12 
Re: regenerative braking
John Bailey <john_bail  2008-02-05 08:47:03 
Re: regenerative braking
"N:dlzc D:aol T:com   2008-02-05 18:03:19 
Re: regenerative braking
"N:dlzc D:aol T:com   2008-02-05 21:01:11 
Re: regenerative braking
"HLS" <nospa  2008-02-06 09:18:00 
Re: regenerative braking
John Popelish <jpopeli  2008-02-05 23:22:15 
Re: regenerative braking
Evgenij Barsukov <evge  2008-02-04 10:42:13 
Re: regenerative braking
Steve <no@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-02-06 14:21:09 
Re: regenerative braking
"Androcles" <  2008-02-06 21:13:54 
Re: regenerative braking
Evgenij Barsukov <evge  2008-02-06 15:18:14 
Re: regenerative braking
"Androcles" <  2008-02-07 09:02:58 
Re: regenerative braking
Evgenij Barsukov <evge  2008-02-07 12:40:17 
Re: regenerative braking
"Androcles" <  2008-02-08 09:36:39 
Re: regenerative braking
"Dirk Van de moortel  2008-02-08 19:26:55 
Re: regenerative braking
Evgenij Barsukov <evge  2008-02-06 14:45:41 
Re: regenerative braking
Evgenij Barsukov <evge  2008-02-04 09:23:41 
Re: regenerative braking
Nate Nagel <njnagel@[E  2008-02-06 17:17:27 

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