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Re: regenerative braking

by Steve <no@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 6, 2008 at 02:21 PM

Evgenij Barsukov wrote:

> Steve wrote:
> 
>> John Bailey wrote:
>>
>>> Is that a fact and reason based answer or just a guess?  A battery is
>>> not as efficient as a capacitor and there is a theorem from sophomore
>>> EE that "proves" no more than 1/2 the energy stored in a capacitor can
>>> be recovered.  
>>
>>
>> Maybe at some EE correspondence school in outer Elbonia, but not 
>> anywhere creditable. Most capacitors are nearly 100% efficient at low 
>> frequency and moderate charge/discharge rates, I have no idea where 
>> you came up with some "proof" that no more than half can be recovered. 
> 
> 
> Sorry man, it might not be obvious, but this effect is true, easily
> provable based on the differential equation describing capacitor 
> discharge and known to every electric engineer:
> http://www.smpstech.com/charge.htm

But we're not talking about the first-year method of charging a 
capacitor from an ideal voltage source through a resistor are we? Nor 
are we talking about discharging through a resistor to a purely 
resistive load, are we?

> 
> As other people have stated earlier, this applies only for straight
> linear capacitor / resistor systems without inductance.
> 
> Switching systems with inductance is a different story and they can
> be 90-95% efficient.

EXACTLY my point when I made the first rebuttal!! There is no "theorem" 
that states with any sort of generality that "no more than 1/2 the 
energy stored in a capacitor can be recovered."  In fact you can get 
nearly 100% out as heat, should that be your goal (as it often is in 
pulsed welding systems, for example). Period. End of story.
 




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Re: regenerative braking
"Androcles" <  2008-02-03 11:52:51 
Re: regenerative braking
John Bailey <john_bail  2008-02-03 09:06:42 
Re: regenerative braking
"Androcles" <  2008-02-03 16:19:06 
Re: regenerative braking
Steve <no@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-02-04 10:17:12 
Re: regenerative braking
John Bailey <john_bail  2008-02-05 08:47:03 
Re: regenerative braking
"N:dlzc D:aol T:com   2008-02-05 18:03:19 
Re: regenerative braking
"N:dlzc D:aol T:com   2008-02-05 21:01:11 
Re: regenerative braking
"HLS" <nospa  2008-02-06 09:18:00 
Re: regenerative braking
John Popelish <jpopeli  2008-02-05 23:22:15 
Re: regenerative braking
Evgenij Barsukov <evge  2008-02-04 10:42:13 
Re: regenerative braking
Steve <no@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-02-06 14:21:09 
Re: regenerative braking
"Androcles" <  2008-02-06 21:13:54 
Re: regenerative braking
Evgenij Barsukov <evge  2008-02-06 15:18:14 
Re: regenerative braking
"Androcles" <  2008-02-07 09:02:58 
Re: regenerative braking
Evgenij Barsukov <evge  2008-02-07 12:40:17 
Re: regenerative braking
"Androcles" <  2008-02-08 09:36:39 
Re: regenerative braking
"Dirk Van de moortel  2008-02-08 19:26:55 
Re: regenerative braking
Evgenij Barsukov <evge  2008-02-06 14:45:41 
Re: regenerative braking
Evgenij Barsukov <evge  2008-02-04 09:23:41 
Re: regenerative braking
Nate Nagel <njnagel@[E  2008-02-06 17:17:27 

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