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Re: regenerative braking

by Nate Nagel <njnagel@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 6, 2008 at 05:17 PM

Benj wrote:
> On Feb 3, 11:19 am, "Androcles" <Headmas...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 
> 
>>| Is that a fact and reason based answer or just a guess?  A battery is
>>| not as efficient as a capacitor and there is a theorem from sophomore
>>| EE that "proves" no more than 1/2 the energy stored in a capacitor can
>>| be recovered.
>>
>>Sounds like a sophomore's proof.
> 
> 
> Great 'theorem"!  Tell you what. I've got a real nice large HV
> capacitor. To prove your "theorem" I'll charge it up to a nice voltage
> and then use a resistor to remove half the energy stored in it. At
> that point we'll apply the terminals to your ass.
> 
> Moron.
> 
> And Guys!  Please leave your liberal educations behind. In Science and
> Engineering Quantity Matters!  No, Virginia, the world CANNOT be saved
> by windmills!
> 
> One key parameter in regenerative braking is the rate at which energy
> produced and returned to the storage system.  If you are going 60 and
> just slow down, you can put large percentage of the energy back into
> the system (except for the friction and other losses you are
> overcoming, natch) but if you come up to a read light and lock the
> wheels, you get next to nothing back.  Even with rapid stops there is
> the question how rapidly and efficiently batteries can be charged at
> high currents even assuming the regenerate system is capable of those
> currents.  Physicists trying to do engineering! This is a hoot!
> 

Let's return to body-on-frame construction, with a ladder type frame. 
All frame connections will be bolted and electrically isolated.  The 
driver's side frame rail will be the positive bus bar and the passenger 
side will be the negative bus bar.  The capacitors will bolt directly to 
the frame rails, as will the motor/generators at each end of the car. 
Problem solved!  In fact, the capacitors can act as the crossmembers, so 
no actual crossmembers will be required.

Make sure to throw the main disconnect before placing your jack stands.

nate

(guess I better get started on this patent application doomaflatchey...)

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 20 Posts in Topic:
Re: regenerative braking
"Androcles" <  2008-02-03 11:52:51 
Re: regenerative braking
John Bailey <john_bail  2008-02-03 09:06:42 
Re: regenerative braking
"Androcles" <  2008-02-03 16:19:06 
Re: regenerative braking
Steve <no@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-02-04 10:17:12 
Re: regenerative braking
John Bailey <john_bail  2008-02-05 08:47:03 
Re: regenerative braking
"N:dlzc D:aol T:com   2008-02-05 18:03:19 
Re: regenerative braking
"N:dlzc D:aol T:com   2008-02-05 21:01:11 
Re: regenerative braking
"HLS" <nospa  2008-02-06 09:18:00 
Re: regenerative braking
John Popelish <jpopeli  2008-02-05 23:22:15 
Re: regenerative braking
Evgenij Barsukov <evge  2008-02-04 10:42:13 
Re: regenerative braking
Steve <no@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-02-06 14:21:09 
Re: regenerative braking
"Androcles" <  2008-02-06 21:13:54 
Re: regenerative braking
Evgenij Barsukov <evge  2008-02-06 15:18:14 
Re: regenerative braking
"Androcles" <  2008-02-07 09:02:58 
Re: regenerative braking
Evgenij Barsukov <evge  2008-02-07 12:40:17 
Re: regenerative braking
"Androcles" <  2008-02-08 09:36:39 
Re: regenerative braking
"Dirk Van de moortel  2008-02-08 19:26:55 
Re: regenerative braking
Evgenij Barsukov <evge  2008-02-06 14:45:41 
Re: regenerative braking
Evgenij Barsukov <evge  2008-02-04 09:23:41 
Re: regenerative braking
Nate Nagel <njnagel@[E  2008-02-06 17:17:27 

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