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Re: fuel consumption has changed blending octane ratio

by Saab C900 Viggenist <c900@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 6, 2008 at 02:45 AM

Pit <spamlister@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:

>On May 6, 6:54 am, Saab C900 Viggenist <c...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> Pit <spamlis...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
>> >In a thread a while back the question of octane ratios came up.
>> >Situation :
>> >Prior to last service  just used normal 91  unleaded (BP) & Gull
>> >Post last service  noticed consumption went up  (over exactly same
>> >routes and driving style )
>> >went up about 1 litre per 100k
>>
>> Was the 91 unleaded actually E10 though? A lot of service stations now
sell
>> E10 and put that price up on the main price board instead of the actual
>> standard ULP price, and some don't have normal unleaded at all (usually
>> independents, etc. that I've noticed so far).
>>
>>
>>
>> >So chucked in half a tank of 95  35 litres to 70 litre tank
>> >consumption went not only back to normal but improved slightly ?
>> >ran tank down to 10 litres remaining  refuelled vehicle  to full with
>> >91 and up went the consumption again.
>> >Thought hmmmmmmmm  so refilled next time with 98    consumption only
>> >got worse ???
>> >back to 50/.50 blend of 95/91  it the vehicle is less thirsty and back
>> >to 7.3 7.7 per 100 clicks
>> >on 98 its 10.9!!!!!
>> >Asked the dealer  AVG Perth  what could be going on
>> >only clue he thinks is they change the computer for winter motoring ?
>> >And to parameters for its mileage  ?
>> >He said might be an idea to hook up my in car computers (2 lap tops)
>> >with a program he has  that monitors performance  from the cars
>> >computer system  But is a "bit unofficial"
>> >Given I do up to a 1000 clicks a day  this consumption thing
>> >translates direct to my bottom line .
>> >Any thoughts or comments ?
>> >Cheers
>>
>> I reckon it's because you're getting fuel that has ethanol in it,
perhaps
>> unknowingly because your normal outlet has substituted it for regular
>> unleaded?
>>
>> Craig.
>>
>> -
>If Bloody BP ( sovereign)  have done that   then
>time to see them in court . As  the pumps we pull from are not the e
>10  brand
>Just plain BP Unleaded  ( might take samples next drop and get them
>analysed)

>Any way we are ****fting to Caltex  /Ampol  next month
>BP  Charge like wounded bulls   and the Bulk deal from Caltex is FAR
>better

!!! BP are the prime culprit (in my part of Sydney anyway) for putting the
price of E10 up as normal unleaded on the price boards with tiny text
underneath advising 'may be up to 10 percent ethanol'... So double-check
and
be sure you didn't buy blended fuel by mistake, and see if the BP outlet
has
stopped selling standard (non-ethanol blended) ULP. BP's price boards have
green background too so it's a lot harder to read the tiny text on the
move.

I have no problem with Caltex fuels - unlike Shell (who STILL has no
supply
of Vpower!), Caltex has plenty of Vortex 98 and almost always has it in
stock. I can't believe Shell still has not got Vpower selling again in
Sydney - something going on there. I prefer Vpower because of it's lower
sulfur content for my Saab c900's. 10 percent ethanol fuel works ok in the
newer one (with ECU-controlled 16V engine) but the older one (with
reliable
K-jet mechanical fuel injection) is noticably worse with it.

Craig.
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Re: fuel consumption has changed blending octane ratio
Pit <spamlister@[EMAIL  2008-05-05 18:13:48 
Re: fuel consumption has changed blending octane ratio
Saab C900 Viggenist <c  2008-05-06 02:45:58 

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