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Re: air - fuel ratio

by N8N <njnagel@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 8, 2008 at 10:50 AM

On May 8, 9:48=A0am, Dyno <d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Mortimer wrote:
> > "Nate Nagel" <njna...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> >news:fvuo59119s3@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> If you believe in those calculations, then why
> >>> not put diesel in your car? That would give you the best mileage.
Righ=
t?
> >> Oddly enough, it does.
>
> > I've always wondered: is it the higher compression ratio or the
differen=
t
> > fuel which gives diesels their greater fuel economy and their greater
> > low-end torque. Or a combination of the two?
>
> Diesels benefits from three main factors:
>
> 1: Higher mechanical compression ratio. Cycle efficiency is a function
> of expansion ratio. This is one of the biggest reasons Diesel have
> higher torque.
>
> 2: Unthrottled operation. In the Diesel cycle load is controlled by fuel
> alone. This reduces gas pumping losses incurred during the
> intake/exhaust strokes. In future Diesels this may fade somewhat as
> throttling is being used to facilitate achieving the EGR levels needed
> to meet oxides of nitrogen regulations.
>
> 3: Fuel heating value. Diesel fuel contains around 10% more energy per
> gallon than gasoline. Diesel fuel is formulated to promote autoignition,
> the Diesel cycle ignition method. The metric for this is called the
> cetane rating. The higher the cetane rating the lower the octane rating.
> For Diesel engines high cetane fuel is desirable. This is obviously
> undesirable in a spark ignition engine.

What he said.  I'm not sure how much 2) contributes, but sort of as an
aside, this is the reason why you see sewer-pipe sized exhaust pipes
on Diesel vehicles - they are essentially pumping the full
displacement of the engine (or more, if supercharged) of air through
the engine every two revolutions, unlike a gasoline engine where this
only happens at WOT.

nate
 




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BobJ <jonroq@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-04 08:21:29 
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Dyno <dyno@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-04 10:49:33 
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BobJ <jonroq@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-04 17:36:22 
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Tegger <tegger@[EMAIL   2008-05-04 23:29:14 
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Dyno <dyno@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-04 19:57:56 
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Steve <no@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-04 21:16:24 
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Tegger <tegger@[EMAIL   2008-05-05 11:54:56 
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"HLS" <nospa  2008-05-05 15:53:46 
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Tegger <tegger@[EMAIL   2008-05-05 23:37:52 
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Dyno <dyno@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-06 01:46:50 
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"HLS" <nospa  2008-05-06 06:13:44 
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jim <".sjedgingN0  2008-05-06 16:51:46 
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Nate Nagel <njnagel@[E  2008-05-06 18:22:20 
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Dyno <dyno@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-06 19:40:41 
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jim <".sjedgingN0  2008-05-06 19:00:59 
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Dyno <dyno@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-07 00:20:13 
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jim <".sjedgingN0  2008-05-07 10:11:17 
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Stan Weiss <srweiss@[E  2008-05-07 11:25:31 
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jim <".sjedgingN0  2008-05-07 10:59:21 
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Tegger <tegger@[EMAIL   2008-05-06 23:13:53 
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Don Stauffer in Minnesota  2008-05-07 06:41:28 
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N8N <njnagel@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-07 08:35:38 
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Dyno <dyno@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-07 13:13:09 
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jim <".sjedgingN0  2008-05-07 17:11:02 
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Dyno <dyno@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-07 19:05:15 
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jim <".sjedgingN0  2008-05-07 21:50:02 
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Dyno <dyno@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-08 09:34:07 
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jim <".sjedgingN0  2008-05-08 12:23:08 
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Dyno <dyno@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-08 13:36:03 
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jim <".sjedgingN0  2008-05-08 20:29:35 
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jim <".sjedgingN0  2008-05-07 14:12:17 
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N8N <njnagel@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-07 12:45:06 
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kludge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-07 15:52:10 
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jim <".sjedgingN0  2008-05-07 16:46:30 
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Nate Nagel <njnagel@[E  2008-05-08 07:28:41 
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"Mortimer" <  2008-05-08 12:45:38 
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Dyno <dyno@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-08 09:48:44 
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Don Stauffer in Minnesota  2008-05-08 07:24:33 
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N8N <njnagel@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-08 10:47:30 
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N8N <njnagel@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-08 10:50:54 
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z <gzuckier@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-08 12:16:03 
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"Mortimer" <  2008-05-08 22:45:26 
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Dyno <dyno@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-08 18:44:49 
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N8N <njnagel@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-09 08:05:33 

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